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Renascent Armguards

AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
So, I've noticed this while I creep around doing creepy things. I think the Renascent Armguards are bugged. I don't think the stored defenses have a mana drain associated with them when they're activated from the armguard.

Be warned, incoming spam, mainly because friggin' spoiler tags won't work.


He is benefiting from a guild experience bonus.
He is benefiting from a guild reserve bonus.
He is blind.
He is deaf.
He is aiming his attacks to the left leg.
He will attempt to parry attacks to his left arm.
He is riding a massive warhorse.
His armor offers him 43% increased protection to cutting damage.
His armor offers him 30% increased protection to blunt damage.
He is using an assumed identity.
His wounds are tightly bandaged in cloth.
He has eaten the quince fruit and is extremely energetic.
He is walking on a small cushion of air.
He is utilising his bodily control to become more fit.
He is protected from the freezing elements.
He is vigilant to attempts to hypnotise him.
He will counter after a successful parry.
He has activated the hood tattoo.
His wielded weapons are attached to his wrists by thin strips of leather.
He is bracing against attempts to gain control of his will.
He is protected by the power of an Earth Spiritshield.
He is protected by the power of a Frost Spiritshield.
He is protected by the power of a Thermal Spiritshield.
He is blessed to move at an extraordinary speed.
He is looking for openings to hit the vitals of his opponent.
He is aware of movement in the skies.
He is concentrating on maintaining distance from the dreamworld.
He is watching the trees for signs of movement.
He is covering his tracks to make finding him harder.
His mind is racing with enhanced speed.
His mind has been attuned to Dis.
His skin is hard and tough like the bark of an oak tree.
His body is weathering the storm of life a little better.
His vision is heightened to see in the dark.
He is hiding his weapons underneath his cloak.
A curseward has been established about his person.
His veins burn with immunity to deadly venoms.
He is tempered against fire damage.
His sense of time is heightened, and his reactions are speeded.
His senses are heightened.
He is protected by a waxy coating.
He is concentrating on firing his bow with increased speed.
He is surrounded by a cloak of protection.
He can perceive the unobvious through the sense of his third eye.
He is moving with heightened celerity.
He has heightened ingestion.
He cannot be followed, covered in camouflage as he is.
He has insomnia, and cannot easily go to sleep.
He is covered in camouflage, and many of his actions are hidden.
He has activated the torch tattoo.
He will call upon his fortitude in need.
He is protected by 51 defences.

This person did not sip mana once and had no mana regen.


She is benefiting from a guild experience bonus.
She is benefiting from a guild reserve bonus.
She is blind.
She is deaf.
She is aiming her attacks to the right leg.
She will attempt to parry attacks to her head.
Her armor offers her 30% increased protection to cutting damage.
Her armor offers her 37% increased protection to blunt damage.
She is extremely heavy and difficult to move.
She has enhanced her vision to be able to see traces of lifeforce.
She is looking for openings to hit the vitals of her opponent.
She is aware of movement in the skies.
Her wounds are tightly bandaged in cloth.
Her skin is hard and tough like the bark of an oak tree.
She is actively searching for life in the land around her.
Her mind has been attuned to Dis.
Her mind is racing with enhanced speed.
She is blessed to move at an extraordinary speed.
She is concentrating on maintaining distance from the dreamworld.
She is moving with heightened celerity.
She is protected by the power of a Frost Spiritshield.
She is feeling so full that she could not eat anything.
She has heightened ingestion.
Her senses are heightened.
She is protected by the power of a Thermal Spiritshield.
She is protected by the power of an Earth Spiritshield.
She is bracing against attempts to gain control of her will.
Her senses are attuned to nearby movement.
She can perceive the unobvious through the sense of her third eye.
Her vision is heightened to see in the dark.
She is protected from the freezing elements.
She is surrounded by a cloak of protection.
She is walking on a small cushion of air.
Her veins burn with immunity to deadly venoms.
She is carefully watching for prying eyes.
She is tempered against fire damage.
A curseward has been established about her person.
She has eaten the quince fruit and is extremely energetic.
She has insomnia, and cannot easily go to sleep.
Her sense of time is heightened, and her reactions are speeded.
Her wielded weapons are attached to her wrists by thin strips of leather.
Her body is weathering the storm of life a little better.
She is covering her tracks to make finding her harder.
She is hiding her weapons underneath her cloak.
She is covered in camouflage, and many of her actions are hidden.
She cannot be followed, covered in camouflage as she is.
She has used great guile to conceal her presence.
She is utilising her bodily control to become more fit.
She will call upon her fortitude in need.
She is feeling quite selfish.
She has activated the hood tattoo.
The aura of the owl surrounds her.
She has activated the torch tattoo.
She is watching the trees for signs of movement.
She is vigilant to attempts to hypnotise her.
She is attuned to local telepathic interference.
She is utilizing hypersight.
She is protected from hand-held weapons with an aura of rebounding.

This person didn't drink mana either.

I took off my mana ring and watched the mana ticks. In about 30s I lost 80 mana. At a minute I was well below half mana. Defenses are balanced around draining mana. Can we please get some clean up on aisle six?

Comments

  • IluvIluv Member Posts: 703 ✭✭✭✭
    I can confirm that defences do not drain at all when applied with armguards.
  • MathiausMathiaus Member Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2013
    It's the only reason why I got them honestly. Thought it was part of the perks for getting them.
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  • SelthisSelthis Member Posts: 526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You thought keeping up all the mana draining defenses with no cost was a perk and not a bug?

    When they sell several artifacts that cost more with the intent to make mana more manageable. (Robes/mana sip ring/mana regen ring/auction artifacts).

    I mean come on.
  • GarrynGarryn Member, Administrator Posts: 527 admin
    Oi, that's not fixed yet? Let me check.
  • GarrynGarryn Member, Administrator Posts: 527 admin
    A sneaky bug, that. Fixed now!
  • MathiausMathiaus Member Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭
    Selthis said:
    You thought keeping up all the mana draining defenses with no cost was a perk and not a bug?

    When they sell several artifacts that cost more with the intent to make mana more manageable. (Robes/mana sip ring/mana regen ring/auction artifacts).

    I mean come on.

    I questioned it at first, but someone I spoke to told me that was part of having them, so I rolled with it and got them simply cause they told me it gave no drains. I see no reason for me to have them now, especially since they don't store bard songs or anything else super useful for me. I honestly wish I could get all the credits back for it now, but more than likely I'll be told you don't get refunded for a bug we kept on it accidentally.
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  • SelthisSelthis Member Posts: 526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These armguards allow you to store all your defences, then
        instantly recall them. Ideal to raise all your necessary
        combat defences instantly, without any delays! Restoring
        defences can only be done once per 60 minutes.
      - TWIST ARMGUARD: stores all (allowed) defences in the armguard.
        Clears any previously-stored defences
      - UNTWIST ARMGUARD: releases defences stored for your current profession,  
        including profession-agnostic defences.
      - TAP ARMGUARD: restore saved defences. Does not delete saved
        defences. 60 minute cooldown.
      - Note that certain defences, especially momentum-based
        defences, are excluded, such as engage, most of Kanai,
        shield tattoo, numbness, or kai deliverance.

    Notice the bolded parts. They're a convenience artifact, specifically with functionality added  for stuff to be stored per class including profession neutral defenses.  There is no mention of benefits regarding mana consumption. If negating mana consumption was included I imagine they would be super hot sellers and they would mention it in the help file as that would make people go "hell yah, gonna buy these."

    The functionality of what was offered has not changed. The only thing that has changed is that they are no longer bugged. There has been no reduction in usefulness overall, just a reduction in perceived usefulness because you can no longer receive the benefit of the bug itself. 
  • MathiausMathiaus Member Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭

    Selthis said: "... If negating mana consumption was included I imagine they would be super hot sellers and they would mention it in the help file as that would make people go "hell yah, gonna buy these..."

    Which is exactly why I had gotten them. It was the selling point of what was told to me regardless of what was written in the help file because I had even commented on it seeming a bit overpowered to have no drains but was reassured that was part of the artifact's abilities.

    I just have to deal with the misconception that was given to me and use them, regardless of how else I might feel about it.

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  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A safe tip:

    If your artifact is doing more than it says it does, it's more than likely a bug and will be fixed. This is exactly why I never bought armguards, despite the 'perks'. 

    Life is hard. :(
  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We can go ahead and close this thread now, because Apoloc just won it.

    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • IluvIluv Member Posts: 703 ✭✭✭✭
    Armguards still worth it for the vitality.
  • SarriusSarrius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a convenience artifact. Convenience doesn't really mean 'remove the cost point of a defense'.

    It is pretty good still for vitality, though..
    <div>Message #2062&nbsp; Sent By: (imperian)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>****, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IIRC, that bug's been fixed too, and it doesn't still transfer vitality to classes that don't have it. 

    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • SarriusSarrius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Armguards don't store wyvern collar vitality?
    <div>Message #2062&nbsp; Sent By: (imperian)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>****, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They shouldn't, no.

    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • IluvIluv Member Posts: 703 ✭✭✭✭
    The stance I heard was vitality collar was fine because you only get the vitality once every hour.
  • AzefelAzefel Member Posts: 730 ✭✭✭✭
    Somewhat related, bliss defence doesn't drop when you swap profs. So you can put up bliss then change prof and it continues ticking and gives you all the defences that bliss does. It can and will give you toughness, resistance, fitness, which you can then store onto your armguards.
  • GarrynGarryn Member, Administrator Posts: 527 admin
    Annnd, fixed. Please make sure to file bug reports when you find such things, thanks!
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