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  • SarriusSarrius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2012
    Jeremy said:
    I will meet with the powers that be and rethink this a little. Maybe we can offer some alternate titles, which is really all it is.
    That would really be nice. I think an entity having a list of possible 'titles' to choose from upon joining a cult or sect is a good way to go. Some circles will obviously not use some of them - Demon Lord/Lady for AM, maybe even Elemental Lord/Lady - but that is fine. A slew of options they could pick from would be cool - Spirit, Incarnation, Angel, Elemental, Demon, Manifestation, Aspect, etc. This lets the cults that really do like the current titles retain them, while the odd cults that don't mesh well with the current titles will also have what they want.

    In response to @Juran, he's right. None of these titles are bad in any way - really, had we been told this was what happens, maybe we'd have planned a little better about our themes.

    <div>Message #2062&nbsp; Sent By: (imperian)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>****, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm excited for my Demon Lord/Lady.
  • JuranJuran Member Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We will probably never hit 100% belief, so it's something of an irrelevant discussion.
  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm posting here again, because I'd like to bring up the log issue again. This is the current day's log from my sect, Flame.

    2013/01/07 00:34:53 - We've gained 1684 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 00:38:36 - We've gained 2270 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 00:46:29 - We've gained 10583 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 00:49:23 - Member spent 20000 belief on the fortune favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 00:52:52 - We've gained 12217 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 01:05:25 - We've gained 4705 belief thanks to Khepera.
    2013/01/07 01:08:48 - We've gained 20570 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 01:14:29 - We've gained 908 belief thanks to Khepera.
    2013/01/07 01:16:47 - We've gained 2724 belief thanks to Khepera.
    2013/01/07 01:18:23 - We've gained 7177 belief thanks to Khepera.
    2013/01/07 01:22:28 - We've gained 27514 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 01:39:15 - We've gained 2724 belief thanks to Khepera.
    2013/01/07 01:51:11 - We've gained 47424 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 01:59:38 - We've gained 12816 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 02:13:49 - We've gained 28140 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 02:22:43 - We've gained 17098 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 03:02:23 - We've lost 9794 belief due to death of Member.
    2013/01/07 04:15:36 - Member spent 50000 belief on the favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 04:26:46 - We've lost 33333 belief due to death of Member.
    2013/01/07 04:47:06 - We've gained 37193 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 05:18:56 - We've gained 20724 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 05:54:26 - We've gained 49103 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 06:52:30 - We've lost 33333 belief due to death of Member.
    2013/01/07 07:07:19 - We've lost 33333 belief due to death of Member.
    2013/01/07 07:27:52 - Member spent 20000 belief on the fortune favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 07:34:11 - We've gained 45963 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 07:49:22 - We've gained 27402 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 08:03:40 - We've gained 139 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 08:42:56 - We've gained 28811 belief thanks to Khizan.
    2013/01/07 08:43:00 - We've gained 9447 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 10:17:48 - Khizan spent 2000000 belief on Protective Rituals.
    2013/01/07 11:06:01 - Khizan > I've given Applicant permission to join, if he asks about it.
    2013/01/07 12:19:43 - Member spent 20000 belief on the fortune favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 12:22:09 - Aulani spent 20000 belief on the fortune favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 12:26:34 - We've gained 11608 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 12:34:31 - We've gained 11372 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 12:36:54 - We've gained 28342 belief thanks to Member.
    2013/01/07 13:03:12 - We've gained 13002 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:10:01 - We've gained 10813 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:23:23 - We've gained 12038 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:29:50 - We've gained 9835 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:40:33 - We've gained 12159 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:47:22 - We've gained 9332 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 13:56:13 - We've gained 10315 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 14:03:54 - We've gained 12106 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 14:15:00 - We've gained 9812 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 14:22:22 - We've gained 10799 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 16:17:08 - Aulani spent 20000 belief on the fortune favour ritual.
    2013/01/07 16:24:28 - We've gained 11977 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 16:28:12 - We've gained 7178 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 16:44:28 - We've gained 11695 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 16:51:23 - We've gained 12072 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 17:05:50 - We've gained 10324 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 17:10:45 - We've lost 33333 belief due to death of Member.
    2013/01/07 17:12:08 - We've gained 9821 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 17:25:09 - We've gained 13457 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 17:31:56 - We've gained 9821 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 17:40:25 - We've gained 10299 belief thanks to Aulani.
    2013/01/07 18:40:31 - We've lost 33333 belief due to death of Member.

    There's one line of content in there that's important at all, and it's buried in 3 pages of offering spam, which is irritating as hell. Could we please get a seperate belief log?


    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • SelthisSelthis Member Posts: 526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    Khizan said:

    I'm posting here again, because I'd like to bring up the log issue again. This is the current day's log from my sect, Flame.

    There's one line of content in there that's important at all, and it's buried in 3 pages of offering spam, which is irritating as hell. Could we please get a seperate belief log?


    Or just recreate the listofferings/listofferings summary commands from achaea and make it an investable power in cults/sects
  • LalitanaLalitana Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    I'd rather just have the offering spam moved to a separate log (and viewed with an investable sect power), with the main log reserved for legitimate sect operational information.

    I'd also like positions to show up properly in SECTWHO :(

  • SarriusSarrius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can we possibly see some reform of the 'cult promote/demote' system? It is just 'sectfavour'. Give the sect leader unlimited promotes/demotes or something, because I'm trying to set up an actual structure here.
    <div>Message #2062&nbsp; Sent By: (imperian)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>****, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
  • Jeremy SaundersJeremy Saunders Administrator Posts: 1,251 admin
    I will ask Garryn about cleaning up the logs and making structure a bit easier for sects.
  • LalitanaLalitana Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    Another sect oddity: The Sect Ranknames privilege lets anyone with this position rename the ranks and can be invested - but apparently no one but the sect leader can see what privileges are assigned to each rank (I believe this is the SECT RANKPRIVS command).

    Does building a temple room require the additional gold investment for room title/description/environment? The system appears to be based on the housing system, which requires 10k outlays for these necessities above and beyond the room creation cost.

  • BathanBathan Member Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does. :(
    ‘Least I won’t have to carry it no more. You see how bloody heavy it is?’

    ‘Every sword’s a weight to carry. Men don’t see that when they pick ’em up. But they get heavier with time.”
  • GarrynGarryn Member, Administrator Posts: 527 admin
    The temple isn't really meant to be something that gets built overnight, hence the costs.
  • LalitanaLalitana Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    Bathan said:
    It does. :(
    That should probably be noted in the file, then - because it adds so much in the way of costs per room even before you get beyond the bare necessities.

    Which, frankly, since people already had to cough up 1M for the cult, 100% belief to get the sect, started from 0% belief all over again, and now need to cough up 100k, comms, and 25% belief per room, strikes me as a bit...much.


  • DelrayneDelrayne Member Posts: 457 ✭✭✭
    I'm inclined to agree, though like @Garryn said. They weren't meant to be built overnight...but still, add in the ritual research and all that jazz, it'll still take quite awhile to build even if the requirements are less stringent.
  • LalitanaLalitana Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    Sect members - since there are now ranks and all, I think it would make sense for this to be more like GMEMBERS, or better yet an extension of SECTWHO, to list members and their ranks/positions.
  • LionasLionas Member, Historian Posts: 765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    Here's the table I generate client-side. A command that did something like this would be snazzy.

           Belief totals this month:
    ------------------------------------
               Name:   gross  (  net   )
    ------------------------------------
              Derpa:  114,370 ( 114,370)
              Derpb:  595,150 ( 595,150)
             Lionas:  266,418 ( 266,418)
              Derpc:   13,878 (  13,878)
              Derpd:   28,994 (  28,994)
         Zomgsomuch:  785,719 ( 719,053)
              Derpe:  180,069 (  52,462)
    ------------------------------------
    Top performer(  net):     Zomgsomuch with 719,053
    Top performer(gross):     Zomgsomuch with 785,719
    Total belief gained: 1,790,325 (17%)
    I am the righteous one... 
    the claims are stated - it's the world I've created 
  • IluvIluv Member Posts: 703 ✭✭✭✭
    The alertness ritual in favours seems really out of place.
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