I keep forgetting you have four maps and am like, "Why does he get heaps of stuff and I only ever find one?"
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You say, "It's in the ^%*@ing gypsy caravan I hate you ^%*@."
Scratching your head, you take a long look at a treasure map of Aetherius, trying to figure out where to go. It has a big red 'X' in the middle of 'the Western Celidon'. You are getting closer to the treasure!
Waiting 12d to get less than a credit's worth of gold is both anticlimatic and extremely disappointing. Id rather arguably useless trinkets than gold to be honest.
Well. They are really meant to be fun more then a money making venture.
Sure, but the gold is a worthless reward, really. I waited two weeks to get something I can get normally in half an hour of stabbing up Skegdald or Iaat.
And when I speak about worth, I'm not talking about "hey I can sell this for big bucks on the promo market" I mean something I can actually make some sort of use of. Even a gimmicky promo item, a familiar, or similar, is worth something in that context. The gold is just a drop of water in the ocean and the number of times I've got it now has had me neglecting my map out of not wanting to spend an half an hour to an hour looking for 7k gold.
[edit] In other words, I'm not really looking to dig up a smelter thing or a veil or something. I want curiosities. Interesting little things of novelty value. The deathmask was the thing that stood out for me amidst the digs I've had so far, because it was just that.
It is important to remember with the treasure map, as with all tiered credit rewards, that they are bonus rewards on top of credit purchases. Purchasing 100 credits to get a map piece does not mean the map piece cost you 100. In fact, it means it was free!
If the cost came from purchasing them on the promotions market... well, we can't really control the resale price. If the resale price means that a complete map isn't worth the rewards, then players are pricing them too high.
In addition to all of that, we also have to balance the reward with the fact that the maps are permanent items. Lesser value rewards temper the fact that high value items can also be found. If we remove the low value items, we also need to take out high value items to keep the same average reward value.
I'm sorry, but while it's true that it's a value-add, it's a value-add to a three-hundred-dollar purchase, so I mean, sure, I am not bemoaning the familiars, or tonics. They all have specialist value that while they may or may apply or appeal to me, they still fulfill that criteria of "neat vanity gimmick things" Gold, however, has no real such value.
My personal suggestion would be to replace the gold with title tokens/ethereal things/whatever your "common" promo item of the moment is. I don't think that's unreasonable.
In addition to all of that, we also have to balance the reward with the fact that the maps are permanent items. Lesser value rewards temper the fact that high value items can also be found. If we remove the low value items, we also need to take out high value items to keep the same average reward value.
We're not asking for you to remove the low value items; we're asking you to switch them up. Because right now, low value items = no value items because we have a million of them. It's been a year--I don't need four deathskull masks.
(Ring): Lartus says, "I heard Theophilus once threw a grenade and killed ten people." (Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
In addition to all of that, we also have to balance the reward with the fact that the maps are permanent items. Lesser value rewards temper the fact that high value items can also be found. If we remove the low value items, we also need to take out high value items to keep the same average reward value.
We're not asking for you to remove the low value items; we're asking you to switch them up. Because right now, low value items = no value items because we have a million of them. It's been a year--I don't need four deathskull masks.
I never got the impression that they were intended to be 'profitable'. I've really enjoyed my treasure map, and I treat it like a more interesting christmas stocking. It's one of the more unique rewards that they've had for credit purchases / wheel spins.
However, I am against one time items being necessary for gameplay so would be entirely against revamping the treasure map rewards with new content. I don't want someone to be continuously rewarded for an investment that they made a year ago, unless that item is available for new players to purchase as well. I consider the current rewards on the borderline of overly generous, because you -are- earning rewards that no one joining the game later has access to.
The real key here though is that no one made you buy four of them. It should not be surprising to you that you've burned through the content and no longer find it beneficial. If you bought four ink pouches, you'd have more ink than you could store in short order as well. This would not give you grounds to complain that ink pouches should give toadstool.
tbh there should be a way to fund new conflict systems or update old conflict systems directly instead of relying on buying stupid time-limited OP pvp items or silly cosmetic costumes.
As you tentatively open the small box, it bursts into brilliant golden light that blinds you completely. As your vision slowly clears, a weak, quavering voice says, "I may be gone, Wyll, but you shall take a piece of me with you..." You have been granted 2053 gold sovereigns, a tattered map of the Aoash Forest and 25 Credits.
That'll do, pigley. That'll do.
You say, "Oh crap." You say, "My bottle is empty." Jeremy raises an eyebrow questioningly. Jeremy slaps you on the cheek.
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and I got some gold, a soulstone and a page of Antioch
pretty nice from my map!
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
** And don't try them now just see if they're really broken. **.
** Or credit conversion. Try not to do anything much right now. **.
** Don't panic, normal service will be restored as soon as possible. For now, enjoy the wonders of conversation. **.
*** We will be rebooting in about 60 seconds ***.
** Don't panic. Just...stay close to your rosaries **.
** Monetary offers for Salvation accepted. **.
Dig#1: 4 gladiator tickets + token of the creator
Dig#2: Amethyst tonic
Dig#3: a malevolent hob
Dig#4: a gleaming phylactery: 2749 gold, Tylaran Village map page, 25cr
Dig#5: a vial lf condensed Aryana moonlight
Dig#6: Amethyst tonic
Dig#7: A fractcious changeling
Dig#8: A mellifluent meliae
Dig#9: 7554 gold
Dig#10: 9014 gold
Dig#11: Sapphire tonic
Dig#12: 5128 gold
Dig#13: A skull deathmask
Dig#14: 10717 gold
The deathmask is probably the one thing that made me go "ooer!"
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
I mean its cool, but I already had a full set of yeti ones so they are paperweights
And when I speak about worth, I'm not talking about "hey I can sell this for big bucks on the promo market" I mean something I can actually make some sort of use of. Even a gimmicky promo item, a familiar, or similar, is worth something in that context. The gold is just a drop of water in the ocean and the number of times I've got it now has had me neglecting my map out of not wanting to spend an half an hour to an hour looking for 7k gold.
[edit] In other words, I'm not really looking to dig up a smelter thing or a veil or something. I want curiosities. Interesting little things of novelty value. The deathmask was the thing that stood out for me amidst the digs I've had so far, because it was just that.
Just saying.
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
If the cost came from purchasing them on the promotions market... well, we can't really control the resale price. If the resale price means that a complete map isn't worth the rewards, then players are pricing them too high.
In addition to all of that, we also have to balance the reward with the fact that the maps are permanent items. Lesser value rewards temper the fact that high value items can also be found. If we remove the low value items, we also need to take out high value items to keep the same average reward value.
My personal suggestion would be to replace the gold with title tokens/ethereal things/whatever your "common" promo item of the moment is. I don't think that's unreasonable.
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
However, I am against one time items being necessary for gameplay so would be entirely against revamping the treasure map rewards with new content. I don't want someone to be continuously rewarded for an investment that they made a year ago, unless that item is available for new players to purchase as well. I consider the current rewards on the borderline of overly generous, because you -are- earning rewards that no one joining the game later has access to.
The real key here though is that no one made you buy four of them. It should not be surprising to you that you've burned through the content and no longer find it beneficial. If you bought four ink pouches, you'd have more ink than you could store in short order as well. This would not give you grounds to complain that ink pouches should give toadstool.
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
2. phylactery
3. stupid chocolate-brown goat kid
As you tentatively open the small box, it bursts into brilliant golden light that blinds you completely. As your vision slowly clears, a weak, quavering voice says, "I may be gone, Wyll, but you shall take a piece of me with you..."
You have been granted 2053 gold sovereigns, a tattered map of the Aoash Forest and 25 Credits.
That'll do, pigley. That'll do.
You say, "My bottle is empty."
Jeremy raises an eyebrow questioningly.
Jeremy slaps you on the cheek.
Apparently lucky? I'll take it either way!