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  • BathanBathan Member Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, your assessment on the accessibility of the system is spot on. I just found your style of critique grating in this particular instance.

    The initial point of this system was to drain lessons, so while your idea definitely makes it more inclusive (and thus likely more successful) it does deviate from the initial design philosophy which was 'reward people with Iron Elite', ostensibly.
    ‘Least I won’t have to carry it no more. You see how bloody heavy it is?’

    ‘Every sword’s a weight to carry. Men don’t see that when they pick ’em up. But they get heavier with time.”

  • CassiusCassius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 607 ✭✭✭
    One of the points I was trying to make is that this could be an awesome gold sink (which the game needs) rather than a lesson sink (which the game doesn't really need because excess lessons affect nothing).

    I fully expect this to drain one resource to provide some other sort of commodity (fame/prestige/whatever the hell the endgame here is). IMO they just picked the wrong commodity.
  • SarriusSarrius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your first mercenary, in a tutorial quest explaining the system, should be free to train.
    <div>Message #2062&nbsp; Sent By: (imperian)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Received On: 1/20/2018/2:59</div><div>"Antioch has filed a bounty against you. Reason: Raiding Antioch and stealing Bina, being a right</div><div>****, and not belonging anywhere near Antioch till he grows up."</div>
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    I've enjoyed talking to people about their mercs, getting to share laughs about all our failures and all that
  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many people who have mercs who can't set fire to dry grass?
  • IniarIniar Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have to be careful with the rewards or you end up with another '%#%-Im-behind-the-8-ball' scenario. I'd rather they were flavour rewards like a adventures themed Pokemon I can use to taunt and say "Haha Khizan, I beat dungeon X." than something I can use IG. Its a distraction. Let's keep it at that.
    wit beyond measure is a Sidhe's greatest treasure
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    Ahkan said:
    How many people who have mercs who can't set fire to dry grass?
    or have problems with barrels, like touching them and they go flying
  • AakrinAakrin Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    Iniar said:
    You have to be careful with the rewards or you end up with another '%#%-Im-behind-the-8-ball' scenario. I'd rather they were flavour rewards like a adventures themed Pokemon I can use to taunt and say "Haha Khizan, I beat dungeon X." than something I can use IG. Its a distraction. Let's keep it at that.
    Collectables would be fun. Especially pets or rare Mercs or something. Just, anything more than a tiny bit of gold and exp.
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    Dog mercs!
  • IniarIniar Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #hawtlewts4merksyo
    wit beyond measure is a Sidhe's greatest treasure
  • GabrielGabriel Member Posts: 89 ✭✭
    edited June 2014
        I vote for an achievement for most failure. I lazily flailed away at it without putting much though into it. I figured I'd go with the monkey/typwriter/thousand years route. 's not good.

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    So... yeah.
    Hooray.

    :|
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  • IniarIniar Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations, you now can ride without Training Wheels.
    wit beyond measure is a Sidhe's greatest treasure
  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aynthain Hatehunter attempts to pick the locks to the stalls that hold each of the horses, but the 
    locks are too old and archaic for his fine tools to work. After bending and breaking several of the 
    picks, he is forced to abandon the attempt, and your mercenaries leave the stables behind.

    Come on, guys. Let's keep it simple. We're just a fledgling criminal enterprise. One of you kids needs to carry a hammer or something.
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    no more pages of fail adventures


    that's my favorite thing out of the new changes already
  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dunno, it really gave me a sense of perspective for my long term plans of world domination 

    Fail
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    Completed (Yes! A turning point!)
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    Fail (Are we serious?)
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    Fail (Yep. We're serious.)

  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could we get some kind of "You can give your mercenaries another command!" type of warning when an action resolves? I find that I'll often give them a 10 minute command and then get caught up in something else, resulting in my completely forgetting about them until hours later.

    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • IniarIniar Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Make timer?
    wit beyond measure is a Sidhe's greatest treasure
  • KhizanKhizan Member Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could make a timer, but that wouldn't solve the problem with longer options, where I might set a 3 or 8 hour option and then want to power my computer down while I run to the store or go to bed or whatnot. 

    I could make a system to timestamp my last order and then check that time every so often, but that's a pain in the **** compared to an in-game warning.

    "On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."

  • IniarIniar Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thoughts, now that the shiny factor has worn off?
    wit beyond measure is a Sidhe's greatest treasure
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    I find it  more enjoyable, I've got so many extra lockpicks and like though


    I'll still going through the Part 1 adventures, until I get prepared enough to go through the Part 2 ones
  • AhkanAhkan Member Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm accumulating like one of every item except poison.

    If it weren't for Mercer's posts, I'd forget to check the for hire list.
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2014
    Ahkan said:
    I'm accumulating like one of every item except poison.

    If it weren't for Mercer's posts, I'd forget to check the for hire list.
    I got the poison offhand item on one of my early adventures

    I've been having problems getting Swim and Force guidebooks though

    Probably donated at least 6, 7 lockpicks back to the Mercenary Union
  • CassiusCassius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 607 ✭✭✭
    Mercer said:


    Ahkan said:

    I'm accumulating like one of every item except poison.

    If it weren't for Mercer's posts, I'd forget to check the for hire list.

    I got the poison offhand item on one of my early adventures

    I've been having problems getting Swim and Force guidebooks though

    Probably donated at least 6, 7 lockpicks back to the Mercenary Union


    Setup a guidebook exchange?

  • CassiusCassius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 607 ✭✭✭
    A half-eaten orcish arm has turned to dust inside of guidebook#189616.

    WTF is this?
  • MercerMercer Member Posts: 220 ✭✭✭
    Okay that wasn't just me then, except it was in a galingale
  • CassiusCassius Member, Beta Testers Posts: 607 ✭✭✭
    Cassius said:

    A half-eaten orcish arm has turned to dust inside of guidebook#189616.

    WTF is this?

    I now have 11 of this same massage. Just how many half earn arms can fit in one guidebook?
  • EoghanEoghan Member, Immortal Posts: 1,073 mod
    Cassius said:
    A half-eaten orcish arm has turned to dust inside of guidebook#189616. WTF is this?
    I now have 11 of this same massage. Just how many half earn arms can fit in one guidebook?
    We get to things like this faster if you file a bug report. You'll no longer be plagued with orc arms.
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