I personally disagree. If you happen to get a ranged kill, you're credited for that. But if you're just shooting things into combat outside the room like a terrible siege monster (me) or are range blasting people into oblivion, I don't know that you should be rewarded for that, unless you actually make the kill. Get in there and beat people directly and risk death, or accept that you're going to potentially have less glory (and exp).
I personally disagree. If you happen to get a ranged kill, you're credited for that. But if you're just shooting things into combat outside the room like a terrible siege monster (me) or are range blasting people into oblivion, I don't know that you should be rewarded for that, unless you actually make the kill. Get in there and beat people directly and risk death, or accept that you're going to potentially have less glory (and exp).
Honestly, working outside the room during the fight -is- different for AM - because of ansuz. And in particular, ansuz plus prop and forget totem with demonic. In fact, trying to work outside the room is potentially WAY more dangerous for that reason.
The only reason Theo is probably able to do what he does at all, is because they're reserving the ansuz to make doubly sure primary target is absolutely, positively not getting out. And the only thing I can guess as to why he's not first target is because his dps is good, but it's not burst damage, so he often does get to arrow while they drop less tanky and/or more burst outputting targets, even if there are wytches involved (which there usually are, because they're so useful). If there aren't wytches, sure, he's doing stuff relatively safely one room out, just like anyone else.
EDIT: changing XP stuffs is very possibly impractical, but let's not pretend working outside the room is the same for all of the circles, basically.
I'm not trying to avoid risk. I don't care about dying.
Doubleshot is just a better offensive strategy than qjab. I just didn't think I should be penalized for using the best offense I have.
The best offense you have is the glaive. Sitting outside the room doubleshooting provides no significant assistance, so it's fitting that you get no reward.
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
I'm not trying to avoid risk. I don't care about dying.
Doubleshot is just a better offensive strategy than qjab. I just didn't think I should be penalized for using the best offense I have.
It's only the best offense you have because you can do it longer without having to consider your defense or actually 'participate' in the fight. They've taken great pains to diminish the impact on ranged combat to discourage people from doing exactly what it is you're doing.
LoS can be super annoying itself, and has been nerfed in all of the games I think. It can get especially strong with teams of LoS users. But there is also a longstanding distinction between "ranged" and LoS. And strong ranged is generally considered even more irksome (and I think has been even more heavily nerfed, in general). Theo is doing LoS, not ranged, per se.
That said, people seem to agree that even true ranged isn't all bad. Ranged has been handy in shardfalls recently, because it's a good way to force individuals who run around collecting shards while, say, Magick (Yeah! Magick!) and AM square off for a good fight, to either leave or die. But yeah, only AM can do that particular move, I think (radiance) and ranged skills can be pretty annoying in other situations. Ranged can be a good way to get the fight moving by encouraging someone to make a move, though (this seems to be one of the biggest "positive" uses for ranged skills).
LoS can be super annoying itself, and has been nerfed in all of the games I think. It can get especially strong with teams of LoS users. But there is also a longstanding distinction between "ranged" and LoS. And strong ranged is generally considered even more irksome (and I think has been even more heavily nerfed, in general). Theo is doing LoS, not ranged, per se.
That said, people seem to agree that even true ranged isn't all bad. Ranged has been handy in shardfalls recently, because it's a good way to force individuals who run around collecting shards while, say, Magick (Yeah! Magick!) and AM square off for a good fight, to either leave or die. But yeah, only AM can do that particular move, I think (radiance) and ranged skills can be pretty annoying in other situations. Ranged can be a good way to get the fight moving by encouraging someone to make a move, though (this seems to be one of the biggest "positive" uses for ranged skills).
If you're trying to damage kill with qjab instead of tipslash, you're probably doing it wrong. Last I saw, tipslash spam was way higher in dps, plus you lose more if you hit parry or shield or rebounding.
Not really feasible technically, I'm afraid! Risk/reward assessments aside, we do not track who did how much damage/etc to whom in any easily accessible form.
Summoner Doppleganger also isn't quite as powerful now, since only one doppleganger can attack a target. Is the same true with doubleshot?
No, just like it's not limited with bows from Assassins/DKs, either. Summoner dopplegangers have that limitation both because they do far more dps than archery does, and because they have far more offensive options(strip, lust, etc).
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Could SOMETHING please stop Universe? This is ridiculous.
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
I never, ever really thought about what a curse multiclass could be until today. I have uh, 3 professions that truly get used. Priest seems to be almost dead in the water for AM despite not being bad at all, and I have a tiny bit of Pred in case I ever wanted to get serious about infiltrating places. So in truth I have Templar, Outrider (which I hardly ever use lately, but so much better if you are going to get jumped) and Cheesy Monk. I will probably pick up berserker at some point too, because it can definitely come in handy in a pinch.
But guess what. Every damned time we drastically switch team makeup (which we have to sometimes, and which makes complete sense within the context of a dynamic multiclass system), I derp around in class I have not really played for awhile, and probably never truly mastered, or even really got semi comfortable with. I bet other people experience this too. It is sort of a blessing and a curse to be able to switch the way we do, and to have it potentially matter as much as it does. I don't know what the answer is, but it's something to think about.
I'm pretty sure that she's just saying that she gets all wrongfooted every time she switches profession and that she's split across so many classes that she's not really comfortable with most of them.
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Basically, multiclass, especially the way Imperian does it, makes combat very dynamic. That is either awesome and interesting, or "oh god, Team Monk makes total sense right now, but am I ready to Monk properly"?
So you derp along with a few pretty basic attack aliases and in theory that is all you might need. In practice... you probably need a bit more. You eventually remember that you put kai heal in your main active heal alias way back when - after you forgot all about that for at least 25 fights or so... But yay, it's there. You grumble at yourself that you never really wrapped up the class' defs and your def keeper is pretty much "tap armguards". That sort of thing.
It is the difference between doing one job and getting to be pretty comfortable with it, and being an accountant for a bit, until there is suddenly an urgent need for trapeze artists. "But my high wire act is pretty rusty and was never all that great", you say. "We're going to be working with nets, right? Also, you can claim the accidental death insurance as a write-off".
I don't really know what they could even do about it, without ruining it for the people who love switching classes constantly and instantly, but it definitely adds a pretty big layer of complexity. It's true in so many ways. Before any given fight, or even -between- fights, what do we all do? We want to figure out who is in which class, whether someone switched, or is switching, and how we should react to that, for example.
The obvious fix is to turn everyone into monks permanently. We can all be kung fu fighting as fast as lightning, and every group fight will consist of thirty people staring at each other with glowing, hope-filled eyes.
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(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
(Ring): Lartus says, "Then it exploded."
(Ring): Zsetsu says, "Everyone's playing checkers, but Theophilus is playing chess."
(may vanish for periods of time)
Not really feasible technically, I'm afraid! Risk/reward assessments aside, we do not track who did how much damage/etc to whom in any easily accessible form.
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
"On the battlefield I am a god. I love war. The steel, the smell, the corpses. I wish there were more. On the first day I drove the Northmen back alone at the ford. Alone! On the second I carried the bridge! Me! Yesterday I climbed the Heroes! I love war! I… I wish it wasn’t over."
Equality ftw